Interview: Scare - Philip Roy talks Québec heavy band's remarkable 'In The End, Was It Worth It?' LP

 


While the United States is undergoing a controlled demolition of our economy by the right wing for the benefit of oligarchs to buy up the ruins, our unjustly maligned neighbors in Canada are producing some amazing hardcore and metal music to stick it to the gaslighting fascists. Scare from Québec are an incredible quartet who fucking smash down walls hard and kick out the jams mercilessly on new record In The End, Was It Worth It?. With the new Spellling and Ameokama, it's in my top records of the year.

The band stick out for the ferocity paired with focused, locked in songwriting. Crust, metalcore ((not the goofy kind) and other influences collide in a sophisticated blender of social uprising. 

It was a pleasure to talk to Philip Roy about the record, PMA , upending capitalism and more. It is also inspiring the band is against industry exploitation and self-released!!!


1.Despite being so formidably bleak and intense, I find your music also has many anthemic parts that could rally a crowd or mentally feel like "motion", if that makes sense. There is a great and determined restlessness to the compositions. You feel like whatever each song is about that it is something you can't sit still about. Was that conscious or just part of the energy that comes with conviction in what you do? I also feel that in a band like Rid Of Me, where you know the music is really being "lived", just by hearing it.

Yes, we are not ashamed to be a band with conviction and a political message. We want to speak out loudly against injustices and rally as many people as possible to fight for the right causes—whether it’s the place of womxn in the scene, the environment, or human rights in general. The energy and urgency in our music come naturally because these are issues we deeply care about—we can’t stay still in the face of what’s happening in the world. If our music feels like movement, it’s because that’s exactly what we want: to push forward, to resist, and to inspire action.

 

2."Thrash Melrose" is becoming a popular track. I was watching The Lost Children on Netflix about the Mucutuy siblings who survived a plane crash and before they were rescued lived for many days in the jungles of the Amazon when they were very young. There are parts where indigenous and modern belief systems or techniques both play an important part in the rescue attempts. "Thrash Melrose" is about the environment, so I wondered if I could ask you why do you think people so quickly discount the wisdom of indigenous people? And I don't mean like some tokenizing Native wise-man trope, I mean like the real trip...true knowledge and practices of living better with the rhythm of the Earth. Another example would be how 'Prisoners Of The American Dream' or 'Ecology Of Fear' author Mike Davis basically predicted the recent L.A. fires in some of his writings and didn't think Malibu should keep getting rebuilt. Controlled burnings to replenish, practices. Etc.

That’s a great question, and it really cuts to the heart of the problem with industrial civilization’s approach to nature. The reason indigenous wisdom is so often dismissed isn’t because it lacks validity—it’s because it challenges the very foundation of how capitalist, colonial societies operate. Indigenous knowledge is deeply rooted in an understanding that the Earth isn’t something to be conquered or exploited, but something we exist within, in balance. That’s the real trip—deep, generational knowledge that comes from actually living in harmony with ecosystems rather than trying to dominate them.

From a green anarchist perspective, this dismissal is deliberate. The logic of capitalism thrives on extraction and destruction, not sustainability. If people truly listened to indigenous practices—controlled burns, respect of natural cycles, regenerative agriculture, non-hierarchical ways of living—it would undermine the power structures that profit from environmental devastation. That’s why we see governments and corporations co-opting environmentalism while still clear-cutting forests and pushing pipelines through sacred land. It’s not about ignorance; it’s about control.

Tracks like Thrash Melrose speak to that urgency—the need to reject the artificial systems that disconnect us from nature and instead fight for something real, something rooted in respect for the land. Whether it’s the Amazon, California wildfires, or anywhere else, the Earth has always had ways to regulate and heal itself. Indigenous people have known this forever. The question is whether we’ll finally start listening—or if we’ll let the machine keep running us all into collapse.

 

 

3.Was "Crowned In Yellow" inspired by the King In Yellow cult from True Detective or the earlier Hastur tales? Or is it more along a Fear Factory "Piss Christ" kinda sentiment? Haha. Or both?

Good catch! Crowned In Yellow was directly inspired by The King in Yellow and all of its promises—both the allure and the dread that come with them. The idea of something that offers enlightenment but also brings ruin, that temptation to seek forbidden knowledge despite knowing it might consume you—that was a huge influence. It’s about the way faith, power, and deception intertwine, and how the things we long for can sometimes be our undoing.


4. You are self-releasing digitally and vinyl. Does it feel good to have the self-control over the release this way? A direct outcome of your hard work.

 
Absolutely! Self-releasing isn’t just about control—it’s about rejecting the exploitative structures of the music industry. The industry thrives on stripping artists of their autonomy, turning music into a product instead of an expression. By doing this ourselves, we’re making sure everything we put out is exactly how we want it, without compromise or corporate interference. It’s a direct result of our hard work, and no label, algorithm, or industry gatekeeper gets to dictate how or when people hear it. This is music on our own terms, for the people who truly connect with it—not for profit-driven middlemen.

 5. "Jeanne Dark" is my favorite song on the record. The moody and atmospheric build up is so well controlled and then the eruption of the almost black metal and crust punky dirge charge to action hits so well. It is an amazing song/vehicle for venting frustrations at an era of collapsing empires, as the melodic hooks of the song really get under the skin and underscore the sort of bittersweet side of having to resist tyranny. The senselessness of it all. How we could be doing other things in our brief lives if the world didn't demand activism of anyone with a conscience.

Thank you—that really means a lot. Jeanne Dark is very much about that tension: the weight of history, the rage at injustice, but also the bittersweet truth that resistance is both necessary and exhausting. You’re right—if the world wasn’t built on exploitation and oppression, we could all be living fuller, freer lives instead of constantly having to fight just to survive with dignity. But that’s also why collective action and solidarity are so crucial.

 It’s not just about standing against tyranny; it’s about actively creating change, whether it’s handing out flyers to inform people, speaking up in our communities, or supporting each other in the fight. Resistance isn’t just about struggle—it’s about creating connections, building networks of support, and sharing knowledge. The world demands activism from those who care, but it also asks us to help each other—because that's how we push forward, build strength, and ultimately change things. Together, we can challenge the systems that hold us back, and empower each other to live with more freedom and dignity.

 6. How did the band form and meet and discover you share interests in sort of oblique sub-genres of hardcore? Haha. I love how underground music can lead to deeper connections with people or even an endless discovery of new bands. Even for myself, I am almost 47 and the other day my girlfriend Globelamp, the psych musician, showed me the D.C. folk punk band 1905, and I was blown away that I had somehow never heard them despite that I love like Crass or ¡TchKunG! type stuff.

A mutual friend of ours ( our first guitar player) made a post online asking if anyone wanted to start a band in the vein of Converge or Cursed, so we all jumped on it. We jammed together for the first couple of months, but something felt like it was missing—what we really needed was Gab’s guitar playing. At that time, two of her bands had just broken up, so the timing was perfect. It all came together without any expectations, we just wanted to create music that had a feeling of urgency.

I was the one bringing the bleak themes and lyrics to the table, and I can only write about things that evoke strong emotions, whether they’re positive or negative, so that usually leads me to explore anger and activism in my lyrics. We were all a mix of people who listened to a lot of different genres—when I say different, I mean sometimes total opposites, haha! FNF on drums was always a big Foo Fighters fan, Gab was digging down the old-school death metal rabbit hole at the time we were composing the record, and I was deep in a weird noise/ambient/black metal and even folk phase during that period. Everyone wanted to bring a part of who they were into the mix, and I think that helped us break the paradigm of what people might expect from a band like ours. We’d take a black metal tremolo-picked riff and layer it on top of a drum part that had absolutely nothing to do with black metal, and that kind of experimentation was something we really loved doing.

Scare has always been about this deliberate mix of genres. Thanks we are not on Encyclopaedia Metallum because we would be a pain in the ask to describe!

 

 6.2 Also, can you give us your thoughts on current Canadian political trends and also how you think the stupid Trump tariffs are going to affect things? I heard Quebec was set to lose like 160,000 jobs because of Trump. It disgusts me that my country has a figurehead who doesn't see we are all in a connected biosphere of consequences, or worse...doesn't care because he is firmly of the true "looter" robber baron class.


It’s terrifying to see political trends unfolding, especially with figures like Trump, whose tariffs are part of a destructive pattern that sacrifices the global working class for the benefit of the wealthy few. While these policies are sold as ways to "protect jobs," they only exacerbate inequality and pit workers against each other. Quebec losing 160,000 jobs is a stark reminder that everyday people bear the real cost, not the billionaires who profit from the chaos. Even more disturbing is the rise of authoritarian, fascist-like tendencies in Canada with figures like Pierre Poilievre, especially with his anti-trans politics. Like Trump, he uses fear and division to rally support, targeting marginalized communities for political gain, while ignoring the real issues like inequality, climate change, and workers’ rights. This kind of rhetoric taps into a dangerous nationalism and bigotry already present in Canadian politics, threatening our rights and the values of solidarity and mutual aid shared by number of canadians. We are going through an era where long standing measures that aim to reduce social inequalities, what Canada is known for compared to the US, are threatened and this is frightening.

The real issue is that both Trump and Poilievre are part of a system that exploits us all to benefit the few, treating us as pawns. Whether it’s through tariffs, trade deals, or environmental destruction, these leaders show a disregard for the interconnectedness of our global biosphere[1] . It's not just about borders; it’s about our shared ecosystem, and the consequences of neglecting that will be felt by everyone, especially marginalized communities. This is a fight for justice, equality, and the right to live freely, and it’s up to us to resist the rise of fascism, challenge these systems, and build a world based on mutual aid, solidarity, and care for the planet, rather than corporate profits and exploitation.

 


 7. What have been some of the most empowering moments of the band that actually HAVE given you PMA? I grew up with some of the Bad Brains dudes as mentors to my small community music scene in my hometown, so I gotta put a positive spin on it, haha.

 We touched on this a bit with our last record—our song PMA - Pessimistic Mental Attitude was about me getting sober and trying to write a song about it, while also addressing the frustration with the typical sobriety song. So, getting sober has definitely had a big impact on my PMA. But it’s not just that. We also had to navigate some lineup changes during the pandemic, with members dealing with family issues or wanting to go back to their hometowns. The fact that the band continued through all of that, and that we were directly approached by other musicians who wanted to join Scare, was a major push for our PMA.

Seeing people get inspired by what we do—whether it’s fans picking up instruments or starting their own projects—always reminds us why we do this. It’s that kind of connection, that sense of community and mutual support, that really keeps us going. Being able to have that impact on others, to see our music create a spark in people, is what really fuels us to keep moving forward.

 Thank you so much for these questions—they were really thoughtful and unique, and felt incredibly sincere. It’s not often we get asked questions that go beyond the surface, and it’s refreshing to engage in a conversation that truly gets to the heart of why we do what we do, As I (Phil) write the lyrics over pre existing riffs presenting the final results when I'm completely done, Gab (who came up with a good half of the riffs) says "It's very interesting to see how you connect the music to the lyrics, and how it shines a light on Phil's writing process. As it is a solo journey, it's as if your questions were a sneak peak at what he was thinking while he was listening to us organizing these riffs into songs! It’s so important for us to connect with people who understand the deeper intentions behind our music and the journey we’re on. Your approach really made this experience feel meaningful, and we’re genuinely grateful for that. Thank you for taking the time to listen and dig deeper—it really means a lot to us.


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